Comments on: Pastor Ted Fired

By: Joy-filled man

Joy-filled man — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:03:32 +0000

The good news of God's acceptance True Christianity is not about keeping some rules; it's not about "do this" or "don't do that;" it's not about not screwing up, etiher. Christianity isn't even about living a good life; we can't do that in our own power. It's not about what we do, it's about what God did, and what God does! True Christianity is about being in a living relationship with the living God who loved the world so much that he took the punishment for all of its screwups on himself, so that those who would trust in him are forgviven for absolutely all their screwups, and live in the joy and peace of God's full acceptance, no matter how short they fall of what they should be. We could never make up for our sin, or our rebellion against our creator; we can never be good enough. Knowing that, and because God loves us so much, he took care of it. On the cross, all the sin of those who would trust Jesus was attributed to him (it's all taken care of), and his perfect life is attributed to them, so that now, when God looks to those who love him, he sees Jesus' perfect life! So we don't have to perform for God to love us, he's loved us already despite how screwed up we are! Not only that, but he starts to change those who trust him so that they would actually look more and more like Jesus in how they live; he empowers them to live in love and joy and goodness, and he satisfies them with his love and goodness. That is the good news; that is true Christianity.

By: joeshmoe

joeshmoe — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 08:27:02 +0000

So, would it be different if he didn't admit and repent? Unfortunately, this type of thing is happening a lot in the church today. I am actually on staff of a church where a minister was found in immoral activity with 100% proof. This happened at least 6 months ago. He at first, slightly admitted, but claimed, "i have told you i was a sinner". He used this as a scapegoat. Leaders in the church are held to a higher standard by the Bible. That doesn't mean they are perfect, and immune, not in the least. What it does mean is that when this sort of thing happens, you are more than likely done in ministry.

In our case, the minister has now been to counseling and claims he didn't have a problem. He also has backtracked and almost totally denied most of the hard facts.

Even though Haggard sinned greatly and is a hypocrite, by his letter he is repentant. That is the important key. God promises to forvgive when we seek his forgiveness truly and repent. We must admit our wrong.

In his letter of resignation, he shows, by his words, that he is truly sorry. Time will tell if that is really true.

Like others have said, I am sick of people judging Christianity by those who are huge hypocrites. The reality is that all Christians have times of hypocricy. No one is perfect. But...that is not a license for hypocricy. It is obvious by this situation how the sin of one man can literally impact thousands of people.

Please don't judge Christ by his followers. Look to Him and you will see what it's all about. And to those who are followers of Christ, don't forget, you are setting an example whether you like it or not. No room for Charles Barkley's.

By: BRitz

BRitz — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:29:26 +0000

I'm a hypocrite like you. Relax guys. Ted was living in hypocrisy but aren't we all in some way? Those who condemn him for believing "that shit" while simultaneously condemning him for living like they do are just as hypocritical - are they not? Face it - we all are hypocrites; those of us who condemn sin and those of us who condemn those who condemn sin. I hope (and from what I've read it seems to be the case) that this falling out will ultimately be a testimony to the grace of God available in Jesus Christ. This guy can show humility and grace to the world by openly confessing his sin and submissively responding to whatever correction his church organization would impose on him to bring healing and restoration. Whether or not he ends up pastoring again he can still live the rest of his life as a testimony to Christ's forgiveness and God's ability to restore sinful lives through the power of the Holy Spirit that works in those who believe.

By: Seeing clearly

Seeing clearly — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:27:22 +0000

Black folks are fine with it. Great church and great to all the people who attend it. They even have black elders and overseers.

Definitely prayerful of a man who has fought these demons and lost. Now that this has been bought to light, Satan no longer has power and Ted will now be able to stop defiling himself and lying to his family. Things brought into the light causes Satan to lose power over us. It is so healing.

By: Sayitasitis

Sayitasitis — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:22:12 +0000

Hear, hear!!! Hate it when people judge Jesus by the hypocrisy of Christian Religion. Jesus was also angry at the hypocrisy of religion. Be angry at religion but don't harden your heart to the Good News that Jesus brought. Good news for Haggard, if he turns from his horrid hypocrisy. Good news for you all if you turn from yours. Why don't you really check out what he saud rahter than what the religious say.

By: Sayitasitis

Sayitasitis — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:22:03 +0000

By: Sayitasitis

Sayitasitis — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:21:05 +0000

By: filthy, vile, helpless

filthy, vile, helpless — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:30:11 +0000

repent It is settled. Haggard is a wicked hypocrite. I agree with your anger. And I share disappointment with many.

But a question. Does that prove Jesus wrong? You are foolish to think so. As has been true countless times, those who say they follow Him prove themselves unlike Him. This is not the first time. It won't be the last.

But do you think that because Haggard is being punished that you will escape the justice of God? You speak of God as though He is a "skull-fucking" being. Every word we speak we will be held to against an inpenetrable standard. God will not forget what you say or write. Nor will He forget what I say and do, or what Ted Haggard has done.

And we should all be damned. I know I deserve it. If you don't see why you do, you need to open your eyes.

There is hope if you need it. Even Ted Haggard can have it. God will judge all men after we die. Will you be saved from the punishment of an unbending God?

There is only one Way. Read the Bible and find out what Christianity really is. We follow the one and only Jesus. He is incomparable. And He doesn't look like a religionist.

Just because Ted Haggard's life appears to be on sinking sand, doesn't mean yours is not. Repent. Now. While there is time, do not make your heart any harder than it is.

By: The Skull Fucker!

The Skull Fucker! — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:36:48 +0000

SKULL FUCKING! Skull Fuck Ted!

Skull Fuck Ted!

By: Ned

Ned — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:30:31 +0000

God Wants to Rip Out Ted's Eyes and Skull Fuck Him ?

Wow, that's my kind of god!

I love the god stuff. You can just make up any shit you want and someone will hand you a buck.

The church of skullfucking god. Yeah, sure.

Let's write the bible for it.

In the beginning there was god and he was freakin' twisted.

Didn't know where to put his tool, so he invented man. . .