Comments on: John McCain, Bob Barr and the spoiler effect

By: wildflower

wildflower — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:35:37 +0000

I'm sure Hillary could have held her own in the good 'ol boys debate club.

Nader hurt the dems previously, why do you think the gop helped him get on the ballot in previous elections? I was ticked when he gave up the "green" label this time and became an "independent".. That is the label a lot of people who are discountent with both parties were looking for this year. Instead they get the same old has been Nader.

But a thorn by another name is still a thorn, and people recognize that. Nader won't hurt the dems, stick a fork in him, he's done.

I don't think Barr/Root will hurt the dems either. Barr/Paul might be a different story.

By: guyshomenet

guyshomenet — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:45:07 +0000

The real danger in the Barr/Root campaign is not to the Republicans, but to the Democrats, and the reason is the "blue" Democrats -- the Blue Dogs and the Blue Collars. Current polling (Wall Street Journal) shows 12% of Democrats cannot stomach Obama, and these are primarily the Blues. They likely will not switch to McCain, but in what will be a contentious election, they won't sit it out either. Come time for the debates, they will be open to the small-government pitch of the Libs. The 8% of Republicans who can't stomach McCain may do the same. That's a 4% spread, and enough to influence an election.

But it gets worse for the Democrats. Few Republicans can take the pure-freedom policies of the Libertarians (borders, abortions, drugs, gays, etc) and will not switch. However, these are hot-button issues for Democrats, and ones on which Obama will equivocate as he tries to appeal to the political center. Singe-issue Democrats will defect where as single-issue Republicans won't. Pair this draining of votes with the Nader factor, and it all starts piling up against Obama.

And it gets worse.

For all his charisma, Obama breaks when discussing the details of policy in a confrontational mode. He will wither during the debates when pitted against well-honed warriors like Barr, McCain and Nader. Obama will finish the job the Libs have started.

Enjoy your moment my Democrat friends ... it will be short lived.

By: pastor123

pastor123 — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:11:08 +0000

There are rumors of Bob Barr and Ron Paul Joining forces, Have you been hearing the rumors of Wayne Root dropping off the ticket. You can see the petition at www.BarrPaul08.com

You can read the article about the rumors at www.BarrRoot08.com

By: wildflower

wildflower — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I’m sure Hillary could have held her own in the good ‘ol boys debate club.

Nader hurt the dems previously, why do you think the gop helped him get on the ballot in previous elections? I was ticked when he gave up the “green” label this time and became an “independent”.. That is the label a lot of people who are discountent with both parties were looking for this year. Instead they get the same old has been Nader.

But a thorn by another name is still a thorn, and people recognize that. Nader won’t hurt the dems, stick a fork in him, he’s done.

I don’t think Barr/Root will hurt the dems either. Barr/Paul might be a different story.

By: guyshomenet

guyshomenet — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

The real danger in the Barr/Root campaign is not to the Republicans, but to the Democrats, and the reason is the “blue” Democrats — the Blue Dogs and the Blue Collars. Current polling (Wall Street Journal) shows 12% of Democrats cannot stomach Obama, and these are primarily the Blues. They likely will not switch to McCain, but in what will be a contentious election, they won’t sit it out either. Come time for the debates, they will be open to the small-government pitch of the Libs. The 8% of Republicans who can’t stomach McCain may do the same. That’s a 4% spread, and enough to influence an election.

But it gets worse for the Democrats. Few Republicans can take the pure-freedom policies of the Libertarians (borders, abortions, drugs, gays, etc) and will not switch. However, these are hot-button issues for Democrats, and ones on which Obama will equivocate as he tries to appeal to the political center. Singe-issue Democrats will defect where as single-issue Republicans won’t. Pair this draining of votes with the Nader factor, and it all starts piling up against Obama.

And it gets worse.

For all his charisma, Obama breaks when discussing the details of policy in a confrontational mode. He will wither during the debates when pitted against well-honed warriors like Barr, McCain and Nader. Obama will finish the job the Libs have started.

Enjoy your moment my Democrat friends … it will be short lived.

By: pastor123

pastor123 — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

There are rumors of Bob Barr and Ron Paul Joining forces, Have you been hearing the rumors of Wayne Root dropping off the ticket. You can see the petition at http://www.BarrPaul08.com

You can read the article about the rumors at http://www.BarrRoot08.com