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		<title>By: Richard Valenty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Valenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Nuanced?&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks Cara, I re-read the story as suggested, but I&#039;d really like to see how you could claim with a straight face that the following quotes were shots at Bruce and not at the media:&lt;br&gt;&#160; &quot;And, the media just can&#039;t resist his nasty quips and jabs&quot;; &quot;that mob of TV and print reporters who proceeded to chase him around the building,&quot; &quot;whether TV heads and the Capitol press corps will play along&quot; with ignoring Bruce; or that the state officials would surely &quot;far prefer the media to focus on issues of substance.&quot;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; Each quoted statement, as you will notice, is made up of &quot;media&quot; or &quot;TV/print&quot; followed by an action by the media.&#160; And oddly enough, your story included no mention of online news sources or bloggers writing plenty of stuff about Bruce&#039;s comments or actions -- apparently it was only the news sources that send their digital data to printing presses as well as to the Internet?&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; So, feel free to suggest after I called you out that I missed your nuanced &quot;point,&quot; but I still think your post was full enough of unfair slams on the media to warrant comment. Also, I remain quite certain that at least the print media has covered plenty of issues of substance this session that weren&#039;t Bruce-dominated, even though I might agree with some of the posters on this thread who want more or better non-Bruce hard news from the mainstream.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; And Wendy, surely you noticed that part of my challenge to Confidential was to get you to also quantify how many stories had been written about non-Bruce issues to establish some sort of ratio? Sure, there have been hundreds of mainstream Bruce stories, but from how many sources? How many basic duplications? &lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Nuanced?</strong> Thanks Cara, I re-read the story as suggested, but I&#39;d really like to see how you could claim with a straight face that the following quotes were shots at Bruce and not at the media:<br />&nbsp; &#8220;And, the media just can&#39;t resist his nasty quips and jabs&#8221;; &#8220;that mob of TV and print reporters who proceeded to chase him around the building,&#8221; &#8220;whether TV heads and the Capitol press corps will play along&#8221; with ignoring Bruce; or that the state officials would surely &#8220;far prefer the media to focus on issues of substance.&#8221;<br />&nbsp; Each quoted statement, as you will notice, is made up of &#8220;media&#8221; or &#8220;TV/print&#8221; followed by an action by the media.&nbsp; And oddly enough, your story included no mention of online news sources or bloggers writing plenty of stuff about Bruce&#39;s comments or actions &#8212; apparently it was only the news sources that send their digital data to printing presses as well as to the Internet?<br />&nbsp; So, feel free to suggest after I called you out that I missed your nuanced &#8220;point,&#8221; but I still think your post was full enough of unfair slams on the media to warrant comment. Also, I remain quite certain that at least the print media has covered plenty of issues of substance this session that weren&#39;t Bruce-dominated, even though I might agree with some of the posters on this thread who want more or better non-Bruce hard news from the mainstream.<br />&nbsp; And Wendy, surely you noticed that part of my challenge to Confidential was to get you to also quantify how many stories had been written about non-Bruce issues to establish some sort of ratio? Sure, there have been hundreds of mainstream Bruce stories, but from how many sources? How many basic duplications?
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		<title>By: Wldflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wldflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dougie at the Dome&lt;/strong&gt; Actually, it probably works the other way, When I see a Bruce story, I am interested and I read the article and&#160; take in the other info re protecting tenants from landlords&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;consumer rights, health issues...&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Without Dougie&#039;s lead-in I might think ho hum, legislators,&#160; and not read the story.&#160; So his name helps get people interested in the legislative process of government.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is unlike the Britany stories, where there is no additional info about anything but Britany.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dougie at the Dome</strong> Actually, it probably works the other way, When I see a Bruce story, I am interested and I read the article and&nbsp; take in the other info re protecting tenants from landlords</p>
<p>consumer rights, health issues&#8230;
<p>Without Dougie&#39;s lead-in I might think ho hum, legislators,&nbsp; and not read the story.&nbsp; So his name helps get people interested in the legislative process of government.</p>
<p>This is unlike the Britany stories, where there is no additional info about anything but Britany.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;for comparison&#039;s sake&lt;/strong&gt; I searched Google News from the date range July 11, 2006 (our launch date) through today:&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;There were 370 stories written about Mr. Bruce in the traditional press.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just sayin&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>for comparison&#39;s sake</strong> I searched Google News from the date range July 11, 2006 (our launch date) through today:
<p>There were 370 stories written about Mr. Bruce in the traditional press.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#39;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara DeGette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara DeGette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Column inches&lt;/strong&gt; Richard,&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, we have broken many stories about Rep. Bruce, stories that I am proud we have been the first to report. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In no way do I suggest that the media should completely ignore him. He is a public official. Perhaps the story posted above was a bit nuanced, and I encourage you to read it again. Hopefully you will better understand the point that I was trying to make -- that his disruptiveness hinders coverage of issues of substance. And, that some people long ago predicted exactly this scenario should he ever wind up in the Legislature.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Column inches</strong> Richard,
<p>Yes, we have broken many stories about Rep. Bruce, stories that I am proud we have been the first to report. </p>
<p>In no way do I suggest that the media should completely ignore him. He is a public official. Perhaps the story posted above was a bit nuanced, and I encourage you to read it again. Hopefully you will better understand the point that I was trying to make &#8212; that his disruptiveness hinders coverage of issues of substance. And, that some people long ago predicted exactly this scenario should he ever wind up in the Legislature.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Valenty</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3580/what-happened-under-doug-bruces-golden-dome-yesterday/comment-page-1#comment-11642</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Valenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pine beetles are better, but...&lt;/strong&gt; Thank goodness, indeed! I spent 90 seconds on your archives and found 24 stories about Douglas Bruce without trying very hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pine beetles are better, but&#8230;</strong> Thank goodness, indeed! I spent 90 seconds on your archives and found 24 stories about Douglas Bruce without trying very hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara DeGette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara DeGette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thanks Richard&lt;/strong&gt; We&#039;ve got a great story about controversial injections to kill off mountain pine bark beetles up at the top of the page now. Thank goodness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thanks Richard</strong> We&#39;ve got a great story about controversial injections to kill off mountain pine bark beetles up at the top of the page now. Thank goodness.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthteller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;With all due respect, I think that there....&lt;/strong&gt; ....was a pretty strong allusion that the media were all doing the same thing, and for the same bad reason, hence the question about &quot;plot.&quot;&#160; I don&#039;t think I&#039;m off base of what he was suggesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>With all due respect, I think that there&#8230;.</strong> &#8230;.was a pretty strong allusion that the media were all doing the same thing, and for the same bad reason, hence the question about &#8220;plot.&#8221;&nbsp; I don&#39;t think I&#39;m off base of what he was suggesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Valenty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Valenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Do as we say, not as we do&lt;/strong&gt; Hi Cara, it&#039;s about 12:30 Wednesday and I&#039;m just hoping that you and your readers will notice one thing. This post chided &quot;the media&quot; for focusing on Mr. Bruce at the expense of hard news, and what&#039;s at the top of the page on Colorado Confidential? &lt;br&gt;&#160; Yep, a picture of Douglas Bruce and a story mostly about him! Sure, there are a few other Legislative items bullet-pointed, but no substantial explanation on any of them. &lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; The more I read Colorado Confidential, the more I wish you would drop media criticism from your agenda and use that energy towards simply being media, which you do fairly well at times. Leslie&#039;s recent story on Club 20 and the I-70 piece yesterday were both pretty strong in my opinion, for example.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; So, here&#039;s a challenge. Go back through the Post and the Rocky&#039;s coverage on the Legislature since, say, the start of the 2008 session. Count the stories they&#039;ve published on legislative affairs, and how many of them have primarily been about Douglas Bruce. Perhaps you could do the same thing with Colorado Confidential.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; I don&#039;t have time to do this (you probably don&#039;t either), and I&#039;m sure the Bruce count would be out of proportion to what really goes on under the dome, but I&#039;d love to see you quantify what the media is really doing as opposed to what you just did here.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160; As for me, I&#039;m working right now on a piece about a proposal to merge the state departments of Higher Education and (P-12) Education, and I probably won&#039;t be quoting Douglas Bruce. Cheers, Richard Valenty from the Colorado Daily newspaper&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#160;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Do as we say, not as we do</strong> Hi Cara, it&#39;s about 12:30 Wednesday and I&#39;m just hoping that you and your readers will notice one thing. This post chided &#8220;the media&#8221; for focusing on Mr. Bruce at the expense of hard news, and what&#39;s at the top of the page on Colorado Confidential? <br />&nbsp; Yep, a picture of Douglas Bruce and a story mostly about him! Sure, there are a few other Legislative items bullet-pointed, but no substantial explanation on any of them. <br />&nbsp; The more I read Colorado Confidential, the more I wish you would drop media criticism from your agenda and use that energy towards simply being media, which you do fairly well at times. Leslie&#39;s recent story on Club 20 and the I-70 piece yesterday were both pretty strong in my opinion, for example.<br />&nbsp; So, here&#39;s a challenge. Go back through the Post and the Rocky&#39;s coverage on the Legislature since, say, the start of the 2008 session. Count the stories they&#39;ve published on legislative affairs, and how many of them have primarily been about Douglas Bruce. Perhaps you could do the same thing with Colorado Confidential.<br />&nbsp; I don&#39;t have time to do this (you probably don&#39;t either), and I&#39;m sure the Bruce count would be out of proportion to what really goes on under the dome, but I&#39;d love to see you quantify what the media is really doing as opposed to what you just did here.<br />&nbsp; As for me, I&#39;m working right now on a piece about a proposal to merge the state departments of Higher Education and (P-12) Education, and I probably won&#39;t be quoting Douglas Bruce. Cheers, Richard Valenty from the Colorado Daily newspaper<br />&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Diversion&lt;/strong&gt; But I for one enjoy a good Dougie diversion in a vast sea of Brittany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Diversion</strong> But I for one enjoy a good Dougie diversion in a vast sea of Brittany.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;re trivial news diversions&lt;/strong&gt; Very astute analysis.&#160; The &quot;news&quot; is all a diversion, it started with the advent of the ill-advised Iraq war I believe, that&#039;s why there is little information on the war, it&#039;s buried on the back pages if it&#039;s there at all.&#160; War info re the tally of dead and wounded soldiers, etc. used to be online but now even that is gone.&#160; It is assumed that we are so enrapt with Brittany etal that we will be too stupid to notice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So different than the Vietnam War, where it made the front page when one of our own was killed.&#160; People were aware of the consequences and realized it was going nowhere and rebelled.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, &quot;news&quot; today is a diversion.&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>re trivial news diversions</strong> Very astute analysis.&nbsp; The &#8220;news&#8221; is all a diversion, it started with the advent of the ill-advised Iraq war I believe, that&#39;s why there is little information on the war, it&#39;s buried on the back pages if it&#39;s there at all.&nbsp; War info re the tally of dead and wounded soldiers, etc. used to be online but now even that is gone.&nbsp; It is assumed that we are so enrapt with Brittany etal that we will be too stupid to notice.</p>
<p>So different than the Vietnam War, where it made the front page when one of our own was killed.&nbsp; People were aware of the consequences and realized it was going nowhere and rebelled.</p>
<p>Yes, &#8220;news&#8221; today is a diversion.</p>
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