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		<title>By: mamased</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10298</link>
		<dc:creator>mamased</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Define Hate Speech&lt;/strong&gt; Is anything that points out the flaws in your beliefs hate?&#160; Look, if you are a Christian you DO worship a God that was tortured to death, the icons in your church are full of violent imagery.&#160; Your God lives in the sky, and refuses to communicate directly (unless he whispers silently in only your ear) until the end of the world.&#160; Which you celebrate and pray will come soon.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know, it&#039;s not particularly pleasant to look at your beliefs from another perspective, but those of us out here that have taken a good hard look at the dominant religions of the world and decided we simply don&#039;t buy the dogma have a right to speak out boldly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;We don&#039;t hate you and pointing out the flaws in your belief systems may actually help this world stop killing and bind us together in loving our unique position on this fragile planet.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can fight over make-believe or we can recognize that all the evidence points to the fact that we are all we have.&#160; This planet is all that we have. This life is all that we have.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want simply that we wake up, stop killing and start protecting the planet we live on.&#160; The best way to do that is to give up on ancient myths that encourage slaughter and waste and start living for each other NOW.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you think that&#039;s hateful, maybe you should lay off the KOOL-AID&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Define Hate Speech</strong> Is anything that points out the flaws in your beliefs hate?&nbsp; Look, if you are a Christian you DO worship a God that was tortured to death, the icons in your church are full of violent imagery.&nbsp; Your God lives in the sky, and refuses to communicate directly (unless he whispers silently in only your ear) until the end of the world.&nbsp; Which you celebrate and pray will come soon.
<p>I know, it&#39;s not particularly pleasant to look at your beliefs from another perspective, but those of us out here that have taken a good hard look at the dominant religions of the world and decided we simply don&#39;t buy the dogma have a right to speak out boldly.</p>
<p>We don&#39;t hate you and pointing out the flaws in your belief systems may actually help this world stop killing and bind us together in loving our unique position on this fragile planet.&nbsp; </p>
<p>We can fight over make-believe or we can recognize that all the evidence points to the fact that we are all we have.&nbsp; This planet is all that we have. This life is all that we have.&nbsp; </p>
<p>I want simply that we wake up, stop killing and start protecting the planet we live on.&nbsp; The best way to do that is to give up on ancient myths that encourage slaughter and waste and start living for each other NOW.</p>
<p>If you think that&#39;s hateful, maybe you should lay off the KOOL-AID</p>
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		<title>By: broruss</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10297</link>
		<dc:creator>broruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tearing down Christianity&lt;/strong&gt; Truthteller, there is a reason that some of us folks may sound bitter. We have listened to your &quot;oh us poor Christians, we&#039;re a persecuted minority&quot; BS for decades now. We have listened as your leaders blamed 9-11 on gays and lesbians (Falwell), openly called for the assassination of foreign leaders (Robertson), lied and mislead school boards in an effort to replace science with creation myths, and consistently covered up and/or downplayed your own church scandals which have hurt children and exploited the poor and elderly. We have watched you elected a born-again president who has systematically bankrupted the nation and sent thousands to be killed and maimed in an illegal war. Now it&#039;s time for you to face the music. Let the Christian-bashing continue.&#160; You deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tearing down Christianity</strong> Truthteller, there is a reason that some of us folks may sound bitter. We have listened to your &#8220;oh us poor Christians, we&#39;re a persecuted minority&#8221; BS for decades now. We have listened as your leaders blamed 9-11 on gays and lesbians (Falwell), openly called for the assassination of foreign leaders (Robertson), lied and mislead school boards in an effort to replace science with creation myths, and consistently covered up and/or downplayed your own church scandals which have hurt children and exploited the poor and elderly. We have watched you elected a born-again president who has systematically bankrupted the nation and sent thousands to be killed and maimed in an illegal war. Now it&#39;s time for you to face the music. Let the Christian-bashing continue.&nbsp; You deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong></strong> Amen</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Christians can go to hell.  If there is one.&lt;/strong&gt; Christians ARE mentally ill.&#160; They choose to believe in a fairy tale.&#160; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If a grown man said he believed in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy you would say he was crazy.&#160; Why is it not insane to believe the obvious fictions in Christianity?&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Christians can go to hell.  If there is one.</strong> Christians ARE mentally ill.&nbsp; They choose to believe in a fairy tale.&nbsp; </p>
<p>If a grown man said he believed in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy you would say he was crazy.&nbsp; Why is it not insane to believe the obvious fictions in Christianity?</p>
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		<title>By: Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10294</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Can&#039;t you do any better&lt;/strong&gt; then the childish personal attack and namecalling?&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, I suppose not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;And where you came up with that nonsense about me being female, I have no idea, but you&#039;re WAAYYY off the mark.&#160; But don&#039;t let yourself be confused with any actual facts.&#160; I can see you&#039;re far too lost in your fantasy.&#160; Have a nice day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can&#39;t you do any better</strong> then the childish personal attack and namecalling?
<p>No, I suppose not.</p>
<p>Ah, well.</p>
<p>And where you came up with that nonsense about me being female, I have no idea, but you&#39;re WAAYYY off the mark.&nbsp; But don&#39;t let yourself be confused with any actual facts.&nbsp; I can see you&#39;re far too lost in your fantasy.&nbsp; Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10293</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;And your guess would be wrong&lt;/strong&gt; but don&#039;t let me confuse you with any facts, since your mind is made up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>And your guess would be wrong</strong> but don&#39;t let me confuse you with any facts, since your mind is made up.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10292</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;You want to debate the semantics of what&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;hate speech&quot; is and isn&#039;t?&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Next you&#039;ll be arguing over what the definition of &quot;is&quot; is.......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>You want to debate the semantics of what</strong> &#8220;hate speech&#8221; is and isn&#39;t?
<p>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!</p>
<p>Next you&#39;ll be arguing over what the definition of &#8220;is&#8221; is&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10291</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More hatred and bashing&lt;/strong&gt; :yawn:&#160; I confess, it begins to be boring, it&#039;s so predictable.&#160; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;And anyone who engages in such IS a coward and a barbarian.&#160; Sorry to have to be the one to tell you that.&#160; So before you come to these discussions with all that bias and blindess, perhaps you should open your eyes and look in a mirror.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;(P.S.&#160; I never claimed to be a Christian, or Xtian, if you prefer your own attempt to disparage through childishness.&#160; Let us know when you&#039;ve grown up enough to have an adult discussion, eh?)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More hatred and bashing</strong> :yawn:&nbsp; I confess, it begins to be boring, it&#39;s so predictable.&nbsp;
<p>And anyone who engages in such IS a coward and a barbarian.&nbsp; Sorry to have to be the one to tell you that.&nbsp; So before you come to these discussions with all that bias and blindess, perhaps you should open your eyes and look in a mirror.</p>
<p>(P.S.&nbsp; I never claimed to be a Christian, or Xtian, if you prefer your own attempt to disparage through childishness.&nbsp; Let us know when you&#39;ve grown up enough to have an adult discussion, eh?)</p>
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		<title>By: Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10290</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;And when you can show me &quot;Calling all homosexuals....&lt;/strong&gt; ...any of those things, you can rightfully accuse me of bashing that particular group.&#160; Sorry to pop the bubble of your delusions, but you won&#039;t find any of that from me.&#160; But you WILL find me pointing it out when you or others engage in hate speech against anyone.&#160; Don&#039;t like it?&#160; Tough.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;So you&#039;re not sure what church I belong to (in fact, I don&#039;t), but you accuse me or my fellow religionists (of which there aren&#039;t any, but telling that little fable doesn&#039;t seem to bother you) of making &quot;numerous statements.....&quot;&#160; Hmm.&#160; Maybe you ought to actually CHECK YOUR FACTS before you make accusations?&#160; Or is that too much to ask?&#160; No doubt, easier to simply engage in mindless hateful false accusations.&#160; Well, let us know if that works out for you in the long run.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>And when you can show me &#8220;Calling all homosexuals&#8230;.</strong> &#8230;any of those things, you can rightfully accuse me of bashing that particular group.&nbsp; Sorry to pop the bubble of your delusions, but you won&#39;t find any of that from me.&nbsp; But you WILL find me pointing it out when you or others engage in hate speech against anyone.&nbsp; Don&#39;t like it?&nbsp; Tough.
<p>So you&#39;re not sure what church I belong to (in fact, I don&#39;t), but you accuse me or my fellow religionists (of which there aren&#39;t any, but telling that little fable doesn&#39;t seem to bother you) of making &#8220;numerous statements&#8230;..&#8221;&nbsp; Hmm.&nbsp; Maybe you ought to actually CHECK YOUR FACTS before you make accusations?&nbsp; Or is that too much to ask?&nbsp; No doubt, easier to simply engage in mindless hateful false accusations.&nbsp; Well, let us know if that works out for you in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: terra</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/3303/ted-haggard-quits-new-life-restoration-team/comment-page-2#comment-10289</link>
		<dc:creator>terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hate?&lt;/strong&gt; I guess it&#039;s ok to bash gays though? why is it that Christians are so sensitive to their religion being bashed but are brain dead about them bashing other&#039;s lives.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why is it always bashing Christianity when its just some of the Christains that are being bashed?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hate?</strong> I guess it&#39;s ok to bash gays though? why is it that Christians are so sensitive to their religion being bashed but are brain dead about them bashing other&#39;s lives.
<p>Why is it always bashing Christianity when its just some of the Christains that are being bashed?</p>
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