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		<title>By: Dom Fidelis</title>
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		<description>A CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO HOMOSEXUALITY &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Many Christians upset with media references to gay rights are even more upset over the issue of gay marriages.  Certain clergymen are, in their condemnation of homosexuals, threatening schism in the Episcopal Church.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   Yet others are adopting a pastoral approach based on research and biblical inspiration.  For &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;example, Michael Guinan, a Franciscan, has been a major  influence in helping his brother clerics &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;understand and reach out to homosexuals.  Guinan has been forbidden to speak and write on this &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;topic by Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict.  (The following comments are based on &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;his and those of others  who have also been silenced).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Obviously, the homosexual question has many unsolved problems and areas of &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;confusion.  The question has been only recently formulated and addressed to the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;various fields of inquiry, e.g., psychology, sociology, biology, theology, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;biblical studies, etc.  Each field has its own methodology and resources, and we &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;are far from clear-cut answers to many aspects of this question.  Yet we need to&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;be concerned with a Christian, pastoral response to homosexuals now….. Because we &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christians are bound, by the Commandments and by the example of our Lord Jesus, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;to the following:  &lt;br&gt;    &lt;br&gt;     1.	 Love of neighbor, with	no exceptions;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     2.	 Speaking the truth;&lt;br&gt;     &lt;br&gt;     3.	 Avoiding judgment of others,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;for Jesus says: &quot;Thou shalt love the Lord, thy God with all thy heart, with all thy  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the FIRST and great commandment, and the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SECOND is like unto it; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.  ON THESE TWO&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS&quot; Can&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;anything be more clear?	 Yet many Christians disobey that Word when dealing&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with homosexuals.  I believe we Christians need to follow four guidelines:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     1.	 We must avoid religious arrogance and self-righteousness, setting&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; us over against our gay neighbor in violation of his/her common humanity.	&lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt;The first step of prejudice and persecution is the denial of the common&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;humanity of gays.  We are the &quot;good people&quot;; they are &quot;queers, perverts, fags&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We will not admit we are all equally human beings, sharing the same basic&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;needs, desires, hopes and life.   The second step is to quote the Bible to&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;support this, ignoring the many interpretations of any given text to bolster their&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;particular stand in disobedience to the mandate of Jesus to love one anther, on which &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“hang all the law and the prophets”.  In the Gospels we meet religious &quot;Bible-quoting&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; people who provided the norm against which others are judged.  The Gospels characterize&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;them as Pharisees who &quot;lay heavy burdens on other peoples&#039; shoulders not&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lifting a finger to help&quot;, Mt. 23:4.  Note how our Lord deals with them: Mt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;23: 27-28.  We can identify modern Pharisees by their phraseology: &quot;We are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;decent people, we will not put up with.....We should love the sinner, but hate&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the sin.&quot;  Evil thus committed in the name of decency is worse than that which&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is being opposed. In practice it is the &quot;sinner&quot; who	is hated and violated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the basic underlying problem has to do with faith.  For all their&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;religious&quot; talk, such self-righteous people really do not have faith in God&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as much as faith in their own faith.  The God of the Bible is a God of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;surprises, a God who calls us forward to new depths and new understanding.  We&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;need as an integral part of our faith, a healthy sense of doubt, a doubt in&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;our own faith.  The guideline is this: We must not be deceived or misled by&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the religious veneer on so much talk about gays.  When we encounter attitudes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;such as this we should pause, be suspicious, and have some reservations.  Such an &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;approach often masks something not only un-Christian but even anti-Christian.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can never appeal to self-righteousness to condemn, harm, or deny rights to &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;our neighbor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     2.	 We must not bear false witness against our neighbor.  The homosexual &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IS our neighbor.  In debates over homosexuality, a standard set of phrases and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; accusations are used: &quot;Gays are sick; They are responsible for their condition and &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;can change it at will; They molest children and recruit the young&quot;.  These statements &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;betray a kind of self-assured simplistic evaluation of the causes of homosexuality.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gays are not recruited from the young or from anywhere else. Were that true, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;heterosexuals also would be created by recruitment. The clichés involving children &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(e.g., Save Our Children) are geared to evoke such an emotional response that the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;issues seldom can	be discussed in a reasonable way.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     The evaluation of empirical data is important. So-called &quot;Good Christians”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ignore the empirical evidence, established by research, which disproves the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;above statements.  The latest brain studies focusing on the structural&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;differences of the corpus callosum, the hypothalmus, the splenium and the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;isthmus size between men and women plus the prenatal hormonal exposure provide&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;evidence of a neurobiological basis to sexual orientation. Researchers at&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McMaster Univ. Hamilton, Ont., state: &quot;Our results suggest that homosexual &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;orientation is not unnatural to the homosexual.  It is as natural to them as&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;heterosexuality is to the heterosexual.  The way the brain develops&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;anatomically then functionally has a large early hormonal component.  Among&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the things the brain develops is sexual orientation.  This is one of the many&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;variations within each genetic sex.&quot;   Anatomically we move from female to male as &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hormones effect this transitional phase.  Current research on the effect of hormones &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;during gestation points to this as the primary cause of homosexual orientation.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Previous research has shown that Homosexuality is established at an extremely early &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;age, from conception to 3-5 years as is heterosexuality.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   Child molestation occurs more so statistically among heterosexuals.  If a&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;parent is really worried about sexual molestation of their children, they&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;should demand only homosexual teachers since the incidence of same-sex&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;molestation is dramatically lower than that involving opposite sexes.  The&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christian Century magazine reviewed ten &quot;Christian&quot; books on homosexuality&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and all but two were extremely criticized for misrepresenting scientific data,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;using concepts incorrectly and were described by the reviewer-psychologist as&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;especially insidious.&quot;	All of the clichés noted above as characteristic of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;gays are demonstrably false.  That they continue to be used in debate is the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;result of prejudice, bigotry, and demagogic sloganeering in violation of the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Biblical admonition: &quot;Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor&quot;,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Ex.20:16.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     3.	 We must seek to understand the experience of our gay neighbor even&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;though it questions some aspect of our &quot;certain&quot; theories, lest we close&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ourselves off, as did Job&#039;s friends, to a meeting with the living God calling&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;us to a new and fuller life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     As a test of Job&#039;s faith and righteousness, he is despoiled of everything&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;he holds dear.  From the start we know he is innocent and his protestations&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;are sound.  Three friends come to console him.	They criticize him, presume&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;his guilt and convict him of sin.  Their ears are deaf to his pleas. They are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so sure of what God does (their theology admits no doubts) that they are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;unable to share or even become aware of Job&#039;s experience, which does not fit&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;into their neat theory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     As Christians, we find ourselves in a similar position regarding gays.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have a theory about homosexuality and because of it we are unable to hear&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or understand the experience of gays, which calls that theory, in some or all&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;of its aspects, into question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Biblical texts quoted against gays do not apply to our understanding of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;homosexuality today as a permanent, a given, psychological condition which&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;simply did not exist in the ancient world.  It is unfair to expect&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;biblical texts to provide detailed answers for all our modern problems,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;problems which either did not exist in that world or which were understood in&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;quite a different way.	Just as we should not read all our problems and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;preoccupations back into the texts, we have to be careful not to carry&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ancient cultural characteristics over into our present time.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    We are not considering here the experimental sexual activity among the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;young or those heterosexuals who engage in occasional same sex activity,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; but are focusing on gay orientation.  Many statements regarding the ability to &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;change one’s sexual orientation come from those heterosexuals who have had &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;same-sex experiences, for whatever reason, arises from their subsequent guilt, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;shame or fear. If they choose only heterosexual activity, they reason anyone can. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is becoming obvious that such behavior can change, whereas one’s sexual&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;orientation cannot.  Inappropriate behavior by a heterosexual or homosexual&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is never to be condoned but must be met with concern and pastoral guidance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     If we are to relate to gays in a truly Christian way, we must try to&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;share, in some way, the deep human experiences of gay men and women.  We&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;should not understand this sharing only in an abstract, watered-down sense,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i.e., we read books and	articles about homosexuality, its causes, problems,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;etc.  This is not unimportant, and it should not be overlooked, but it is too&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cerebral. Human beings are more than minds; they are thinking, feeling,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sharing, loving, suffering, embodied individuals.  We must somehow share this&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;level as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Harvard biblical scholar Paul Hanson focuses the problem: &quot;Job describes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a pernicious kind of idolatry, frightfully common among religious people today&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and yet is seldom recognized as such.  Humans conceptualize God, lay claims to&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the infallibility of their image, buttress their claims by arguing that	their&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;concept of God is proven by divine revelation objectively drawn from the Bible,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and then appoint themselves as God’s envoy to proclaim divine judgment on all&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;who differ.  Thus the religiously elite bring about the breakdown of community&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and increase intolerance and human misery, all as a means of safeguarding&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;their own vindictive sense of moral and spiritual superiority.  Job has	little&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;patience with such self-appointed spokespersons of `god`.  Living religiously&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is not a question of constructing and defending a definitive theological&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;system but of responding faithfully, at the intersection of religious heritage,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;contemporary existence and experience, to an encounter with the living God.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point is clear:  If we are to relate to gays in a responsible, Christian &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;pastoral way, we must begin to relate to the gay question with intelligence, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;understanding, sympathy and compassion without condemnation.  We noted &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;earlier that the first step to bigotry is the denial of our common humanity.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gays are human beings just like all of us.  We must keep Job and his friends &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;in mind.  His friends held their theory with great conviction and no room for doubt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The best comment on this comes near the end of the book of Job:  &quot;When the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lord had finished speaking to Job, he said to Eliphaz, the Temanite, `I	am&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;angry with you and your	friends because you have not spoken rightly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;concerning me, as my servant Job has done.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     4.	 The Society of Jesus&#039; time, just as now, had its marginal people,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those others looked down upon, despised, and denied basic justice:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samaritans, prostitutes, publicans, Lepers.  Wherever there was oppression,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;suffering, denial of justice, Jesus faced a choice.  He could have said, &quot;If&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I go to these people, work with them to put an end to their oppression,	the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;injustice they suffer, I may be accused of agreeing with them in every detail;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I may be identified with them.  I&#039;d better stand aside and criticize them, and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;people will see how religiously correct I am.&quot;  Or he could have said, &quot;I will&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;be present to them in mercy, healing, compassion and strength.&quot;	He was there&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with them and he was roundly criticized for it.   &quot;He eats with publicans and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sinners.&quot; Mt. 2:16; Lk 5:30; Mt. 9:11; Mt.11:19.  He was there. &quot;You are a&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;human being; you have dignity, you count.  I treat you with respect and call&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you to grow to the fullest humanity you can, to a life of peace and love and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;justice.  And I expect my followers to do the same.  The Gospels can be no&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;clearer.  Religious arrogance, self-righteousness, hard-heartedness are	much&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;greater obstacles to the kingdom of God than human weakness or sin.  When&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;religion is used to deny life, oppress the outcast, and despise the marginal, do&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Violence to others, we are not dealing with Christian behavior.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     We need to apply these four principles now, for in reaching out to	share&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;compassionately with gays, work for justice for them, we are following the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;example of Jesus who did the same in his society. To challenge, critique,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;educate, comfort, console in the light of the Gospels is essential to and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;common to all Christian	ministries.  But if we do not, in some way,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; incorporate these four guidelines, the other aspects of ministry will not,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; in fact, cannot be heard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dom Fidelis, OPR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO HOMOSEXUALITY </p>
<p>     Many Christians upset with media references to gay rights are even more upset over the issue of gay marriages.  Certain clergymen are, in their condemnation of homosexuals, threatening schism in the Episcopal Church.</p>
<p>   Yet others are adopting a pastoral approach based on research and biblical inspiration.  For </p>
<p>example, Michael Guinan, a Franciscan, has been a major  influence in helping his brother clerics </p>
<p>understand and reach out to homosexuals.  Guinan has been forbidden to speak and write on this </p>
<p>topic by Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict.  (The following comments are based on </p>
<p>his and those of others  who have also been silenced).  </p>
<p>     Obviously, the homosexual question has many unsolved problems and areas of </p>
<p>confusion.  The question has been only recently formulated and addressed to the </p>
<p>various fields of inquiry, e.g., psychology, sociology, biology, theology, </p>
<p>biblical studies, etc.  Each field has its own methodology and resources, and we </p>
<p>are far from clear-cut answers to many aspects of this question.  Yet we need to</p>
<p>be concerned with a Christian, pastoral response to homosexuals now….. Because we </p>
<p>Christians are bound, by the Commandments and by the example of our Lord Jesus, </p>
<p>to the following:  </p>
<p>     1.	 Love of neighbor, with	no exceptions;</p>
<p>     2.	 Speaking the truth;</p>
<p>     3.	 Avoiding judgment of others,</p>
<p>for Jesus says: &#8220;Thou shalt love the Lord, thy God with all thy heart, with all thy  </p>
<p>soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the FIRST and great commandment, and the </p>
<p>SECOND is like unto it; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.  ON THESE TWO</p>
<p> COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS&#8221; Can</p>
<p>anything be more clear?	 Yet many Christians disobey that Word when dealing</p>
<p>with homosexuals.  I believe we Christians need to follow four guidelines:</p>
<p>     1.	 We must avoid religious arrogance and self-righteousness, setting</p>
<p> us over against our gay neighbor in violation of his/her common humanity.	</p>
<p>The first step of prejudice and persecution is the denial of the common</p>
<p>humanity of gays.  We are the &#8220;good people&#8221;; they are &#8220;queers, perverts, fags&#8221;.</p>
<p>We will not admit we are all equally human beings, sharing the same basic</p>
<p>needs, desires, hopes and life.   The second step is to quote the Bible to</p>
<p>support this, ignoring the many interpretations of any given text to bolster their</p>
<p>particular stand in disobedience to the mandate of Jesus to love one anther, on which </p>
<p>“hang all the law and the prophets”.  In the Gospels we meet religious &#8220;Bible-quoting&#8221;</p>
<p> people who provided the norm against which others are judged.  The Gospels characterize</p>
<p>them as Pharisees who &#8220;lay heavy burdens on other peoples&#39; shoulders not</p>
<p>lifting a finger to help&#8221;, Mt. 23:4.  Note how our Lord deals with them: Mt</p>
<p>23: 27-28.  We can identify modern Pharisees by their phraseology: &#8220;We are</p>
<p>decent people, we will not put up with&#8230;..We should love the sinner, but hate</p>
<p>the sin.&#8221;  Evil thus committed in the name of decency is worse than that which</p>
<p>is being opposed. In practice it is the &#8220;sinner&#8221; who	is hated and violated.</p>
<p>Perhaps the basic underlying problem has to do with faith.  For all their</p>
<p>&#8220;religious&#8221; talk, such self-righteous people really do not have faith in God</p>
<p>as much as faith in their own faith.  The God of the Bible is a God of</p>
<p>surprises, a God who calls us forward to new depths and new understanding.  We</p>
<p>need as an integral part of our faith, a healthy sense of doubt, a doubt in</p>
<p>our own faith.  The guideline is this: We must not be deceived or misled by</p>
<p>the religious veneer on so much talk about gays.  When we encounter attitudes</p>
<p>such as this we should pause, be suspicious, and have some reservations.  Such an </p>
<p>approach often masks something not only un-Christian but even anti-Christian.  </p>
<p>We can never appeal to self-righteousness to condemn, harm, or deny rights to </p>
<p>our neighbor.</p>
<p>     2.	 We must not bear false witness against our neighbor.  The homosexual </p>
<p>IS our neighbor.  In debates over homosexuality, a standard set of phrases and</p>
<p> accusations are used: &#8220;Gays are sick; They are responsible for their condition and </p>
<p>can change it at will; They molest children and recruit the young&#8221;.  These statements </p>
<p>betray a kind of self-assured simplistic evaluation of the causes of homosexuality.  </p>
<p>Gays are not recruited from the young or from anywhere else. Were that true, </p>
<p>heterosexuals also would be created by recruitment. The clichés involving children </p>
<p>(e.g., Save Our Children) are geared to evoke such an emotional response that the </p>
<p>issues seldom can	be discussed in a reasonable way.  </p>
<p>     The evaluation of empirical data is important. So-called &#8220;Good Christians”</p>
<p>ignore the empirical evidence, established by research, which disproves the</p>
<p>above statements.  The latest brain studies focusing on the structural</p>
<p>differences of the corpus callosum, the hypothalmus, the splenium and the</p>
<p>isthmus size between men and women plus the prenatal hormonal exposure provide</p>
<p>evidence of a neurobiological basis to sexual orientation. Researchers at</p>
<p>McMaster Univ. Hamilton, Ont., state: &#8220;Our results suggest that homosexual </p>
<p>orientation is not unnatural to the homosexual.  It is as natural to them as</p>
<p>heterosexuality is to the heterosexual.  The way the brain develops</p>
<p>anatomically then functionally has a large early hormonal component.  Among</p>
<p>the things the brain develops is sexual orientation.  This is one of the many</p>
<p>variations within each genetic sex.&#8221;   Anatomically we move from female to male as </p>
<p>hormones effect this transitional phase.  Current research on the effect of hormones </p>
<p>during gestation points to this as the primary cause of homosexual orientation.    </p>
<p>Previous research has shown that Homosexuality is established at an extremely early </p>
<p>age, from conception to 3-5 years as is heterosexuality.  </p>
<p>   Child molestation occurs more so statistically among heterosexuals.  If a</p>
<p>parent is really worried about sexual molestation of their children, they</p>
<p>should demand only homosexual teachers since the incidence of same-sex</p>
<p>molestation is dramatically lower than that involving opposite sexes.  The</p>
<p>Christian Century magazine reviewed ten &#8220;Christian&#8221; books on homosexuality</p>
<p>and all but two were extremely criticized for misrepresenting scientific data,</p>
<p>using concepts incorrectly and were described by the reviewer-psychologist as</p>
<p>&#8220;especially insidious.&#8221;	All of the clichés noted above as characteristic of</p>
<p>gays are demonstrably false.  That they continue to be used in debate is the</p>
<p>result of prejudice, bigotry, and demagogic sloganeering in violation of the</p>
<p>Biblical admonition: &#8220;Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor&#8221;,</p>
<p> Ex.20:16.</p>
<p>     3.	 We must seek to understand the experience of our gay neighbor even</p>
<p>though it questions some aspect of our &#8220;certain&#8221; theories, lest we close</p>
<p>ourselves off, as did Job&#39;s friends, to a meeting with the living God calling</p>
<p>us to a new and fuller life.</p>
<p>     As a test of Job&#39;s faith and righteousness, he is despoiled of everything</p>
<p>he holds dear.  From the start we know he is innocent and his protestations</p>
<p>are sound.  Three friends come to console him.	They criticize him, presume</p>
<p>his guilt and convict him of sin.  Their ears are deaf to his pleas. They are</p>
<p>so sure of what God does (their theology admits no doubts) that they are</p>
<p>unable to share or even become aware of Job&#39;s experience, which does not fit</p>
<p>into their neat theory.</p>
<p>     As Christians, we find ourselves in a similar position regarding gays.</p>
<p>We have a theory about homosexuality and because of it we are unable to hear</p>
<p>or understand the experience of gays, which calls that theory, in some or all</p>
<p>of its aspects, into question.</p>
<p>     Biblical texts quoted against gays do not apply to our understanding of</p>
<p>homosexuality today as a permanent, a given, psychological condition which</p>
<p>simply did not exist in the ancient world.  It is unfair to expect</p>
<p>biblical texts to provide detailed answers for all our modern problems,</p>
<p>problems which either did not exist in that world or which were understood in</p>
<p>quite a different way.	Just as we should not read all our problems and</p>
<p>preoccupations back into the texts, we have to be careful not to carry</p>
<p>ancient cultural characteristics over into our present time.  </p>
<p>    We are not considering here the experimental sexual activity among the </p>
<p>young or those heterosexuals who engage in occasional same sex activity,</p>
<p> but are focusing on gay orientation.  Many statements regarding the ability to </p>
<p>change one’s sexual orientation come from those heterosexuals who have had </p>
<p>same-sex experiences, for whatever reason, arises from their subsequent guilt, </p>
<p>shame or fear. If they choose only heterosexual activity, they reason anyone can. </p>
<p>It is becoming obvious that such behavior can change, whereas one’s sexual</p>
<p>orientation cannot.  Inappropriate behavior by a heterosexual or homosexual</p>
<p>is never to be condoned but must be met with concern and pastoral guidance.</p>
<p>     If we are to relate to gays in a truly Christian way, we must try to</p>
<p>share, in some way, the deep human experiences of gay men and women.  We</p>
<p>should not understand this sharing only in an abstract, watered-down sense,</p>
<p>i.e., we read books and	articles about homosexuality, its causes, problems,</p>
<p>etc.  This is not unimportant, and it should not be overlooked, but it is too</p>
<p>cerebral. Human beings are more than minds; they are thinking, feeling,</p>
<p>sharing, loving, suffering, embodied individuals.  We must somehow share this</p>
<p>level as well.</p>
<p>     Harvard biblical scholar Paul Hanson focuses the problem: &#8220;Job describes</p>
<p>a pernicious kind of idolatry, frightfully common among religious people today</p>
<p>and yet is seldom recognized as such.  Humans conceptualize God, lay claims to</p>
<p>the infallibility of their image, buttress their claims by arguing that	their</p>
<p>concept of God is proven by divine revelation objectively drawn from the Bible,</p>
<p>and then appoint themselves as God’s envoy to proclaim divine judgment on all</p>
<p>who differ.  Thus the religiously elite bring about the breakdown of community</p>
<p>and increase intolerance and human misery, all as a means of safeguarding</p>
<p>their own vindictive sense of moral and spiritual superiority.  Job has	little</p>
<p>patience with such self-appointed spokespersons of `god`.  Living religiously</p>
<p>is not a question of constructing and defending a definitive theological</p>
<p>system but of responding faithfully, at the intersection of religious heritage,</p>
<p>contemporary existence and experience, to an encounter with the living God.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point is clear:  If we are to relate to gays in a responsible, Christian </p>
<p>pastoral way, we must begin to relate to the gay question with intelligence, </p>
<p>understanding, sympathy and compassion without condemnation.  We noted </p>
<p>earlier that the first step to bigotry is the denial of our common humanity.  </p>
<p>Gays are human beings just like all of us.  We must keep Job and his friends </p>
<p>in mind.  His friends held their theory with great conviction and no room for doubt.</p>
<p>The best comment on this comes near the end of the book of Job:  &#8220;When the</p>
<p>Lord had finished speaking to Job, he said to Eliphaz, the Temanite, `I	am</p>
<p>angry with you and your	friends because you have not spoken rightly</p>
<p>concerning me, as my servant Job has done.&#8221;</p>
<p>     4.	 The Society of Jesus&#39; time, just as now, had its marginal people,</p>
<p>Those others looked down upon, despised, and denied basic justice:</p>
<p>Samaritans, prostitutes, publicans, Lepers.  Wherever there was oppression,</p>
<p>suffering, denial of justice, Jesus faced a choice.  He could have said, &#8220;If</p>
<p>I go to these people, work with them to put an end to their oppression,	the</p>
<p>injustice they suffer, I may be accused of agreeing with them in every detail;</p>
<p>I may be identified with them.  I&#39;d better stand aside and criticize them, and</p>
<p>people will see how religiously correct I am.&#8221;  Or he could have said, &#8220;I will</p>
<p>be present to them in mercy, healing, compassion and strength.&#8221;	He was there</p>
<p>with them and he was roundly criticized for it.   &#8220;He eats with publicans and</p>
<p>sinners.&#8221; Mt. 2:16; Lk 5:30; Mt. 9:11; Mt.11:19.  He was there. &#8220;You are a</p>
<p>human being; you have dignity, you count.  I treat you with respect and call</p>
<p>you to grow to the fullest humanity you can, to a life of peace and love and</p>
<p>justice.  And I expect my followers to do the same.  The Gospels can be no</p>
<p>clearer.  Religious arrogance, self-righteousness, hard-heartedness are	much</p>
<p>greater obstacles to the kingdom of God than human weakness or sin.  When</p>
<p>religion is used to deny life, oppress the outcast, and despise the marginal, do</p>
<p>Violence to others, we are not dealing with Christian behavior.</p>
<p>     We need to apply these four principles now, for in reaching out to	share</p>
<p>compassionately with gays, work for justice for them, we are following the</p>
<p>example of Jesus who did the same in his society. To challenge, critique,</p>
<p>educate, comfort, console in the light of the Gospels is essential to and</p>
<p>common to all Christian	ministries.  But if we do not, in some way,</p>
<p> incorporate these four guidelines, the other aspects of ministry will not,</p>
<p> in fact, cannot be heard.</p>
<p>Dom Fidelis, OPR</p>
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		<title>By: Dom Fidelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom Fidelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO HOMOSEXUALITY &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Many Christians upset with media references to gay rights are even more upset over the issue of gay marriages.  Certain clergymen are, in their condemnation of homosexuals, threatening schism in the Episcopal Church.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   Yet others are adopting a pastoral approach based on research and biblical inspiration.  For &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;example, Michael Guinan, a Franciscan, has been a major  influence in helping his brother clerics &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;understand and reach out to homosexuals.  Guinan has been forbidden to speak and write on this &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;topic by Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict.  (The following comments are based on &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;his and those of others  who have also been silenced).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Obviously, the homosexual question has many unsolved problems and areas of &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;confusion.  The question has been only recently formulated and addressed to the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;various fields of inquiry, e.g., psychology, sociology, biology, theology, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;biblical studies, etc.  Each field has its own methodology and resources, and we &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;are far from clear-cut answers to many aspects of this question.  Yet we need to&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;be concerned with a Christian, pastoral response to homosexuals now….. Because we &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christians are bound, by the Commandments and by the example of our Lord Jesus, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;to the following:  &lt;br&gt;    &lt;br&gt;     1.	 Love of neighbor, with	no exceptions;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     2.	 Speaking the truth;&lt;br&gt;     &lt;br&gt;     3.	 Avoiding judgment of others,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;for Jesus says: &quot;Thou shalt love the Lord, thy God with all thy heart, with all thy  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the FIRST and great commandment, and the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SECOND is like unto it; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.  ON THESE TWO&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS&quot; Can&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;anything be more clear?	 Yet many Christians disobey that Word when dealing&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with homosexuals.  I believe we Christians need to follow four guidelines:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     1.	 We must avoid religious arrogance and self-righteousness, setting&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; us over against our gay neighbor in violation of his/her common humanity.	&lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt;The first step of prejudice and persecution is the denial of the common&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;humanity of gays.  We are the &quot;good people&quot;; they are &quot;queers, perverts, fags&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We will not admit we are all equally human beings, sharing the same basic&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;needs, desires, hopes and life.   The second step is to quote the Bible to&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;support this, ignoring the many interpretations of any given text to bolster their&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;particular stand in disobedience to the mandate of Jesus to love one anther, on which &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“hang all the law and the prophets”.  In the Gospels we meet religious &quot;Bible-quoting&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; people who provided the norm against which others are judged.  The Gospels characterize&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;them as Pharisees who &quot;lay heavy burdens on other peoples&#039; shoulders not&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lifting a finger to help&quot;, Mt. 23:4.  Note how our Lord deals with them: Mt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;23: 27-28.  We can identify modern Pharisees by their phraseology: &quot;We are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;decent people, we will not put up with.....We should love the sinner, but hate&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the sin.&quot;  Evil thus committed in the name of decency is worse than that which&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is being opposed. In practice it is the &quot;sinner&quot; who	is hated and violated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the basic underlying problem has to do with faith.  For all their&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;religious&quot; talk, such self-righteous people really do not have faith in God&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as much as faith in their own faith.  The God of the Bible is a God of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;surprises, a God who calls us forward to new depths and new understanding.  We&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;need as an integral part of our faith, a healthy sense of doubt, a doubt in&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;our own faith.  The guideline is this: We must not be deceived or misled by&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the religious veneer on so much talk about gays.  When we encounter attitudes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;such as this we should pause, be suspicious, and have some reservations.  Such an &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;approach often masks something not only un-Christian but even anti-Christian.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can never appeal to self-righteousness to condemn, harm, or deny rights to &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;our neighbor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     2.	 We must not bear false witness against our neighbor.  The homosexual &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IS our neighbor.  In debates over homosexuality, a standard set of phrases and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; accusations are used: &quot;Gays are sick; They are responsible for their condition and &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;can change it at will; They molest children and recruit the young&quot;.  These statements &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;betray a kind of self-assured simplistic evaluation of the causes of homosexuality.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gays are not recruited from the young or from anywhere else. Were that true, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;heterosexuals also would be created by recruitment. The clichés involving children &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(e.g., Save Our Children) are geared to evoke such an emotional response that the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;issues seldom can	be discussed in a reasonable way.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     The evaluation of empirical data is important. So-called &quot;Good Christians”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ignore the empirical evidence, established by research, which disproves the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;above statements.  The latest brain studies focusing on the structural&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;differences of the corpus callosum, the hypothalmus, the splenium and the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;isthmus size between men and women plus the prenatal hormonal exposure provide&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;evidence of a neurobiological basis to sexual orientation. Researchers at&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McMaster Univ. Hamilton, Ont., state: &quot;Our results suggest that homosexual &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;orientation is not unnatural to the homosexual.  It is as natural to them as&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;heterosexuality is to the heterosexual.  The way the brain develops&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;anatomically then functionally has a large early hormonal component.  Among&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the things the brain develops is sexual orientation.  This is one of the many&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;variations within each genetic sex.&quot;   Anatomically we move from female to male as &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hormones effect this transitional phase.  Current research on the effect of hormones &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;during gestation points to this as the primary cause of homosexual orientation.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Previous research has shown that Homosexuality is established at an extremely early &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;age, from conception to 3-5 years as is heterosexuality.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   Child molestation occurs more so statistically among heterosexuals.  If a&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;parent is really worried about sexual molestation of their children, they&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;should demand only homosexual teachers since the incidence of same-sex&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;molestation is dramatically lower than that involving opposite sexes.  The&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christian Century magazine reviewed ten &quot;Christian&quot; books on homosexuality&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and all but two were extremely criticized for misrepresenting scientific data,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;using concepts incorrectly and were described by the reviewer-psychologist as&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;especially insidious.&quot;	All of the clichés noted above as characteristic of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;gays are demonstrably false.  That they continue to be used in debate is the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;result of prejudice, bigotry, and demagogic sloganeering in violation of the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Biblical admonition: &quot;Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor&quot;,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Ex.20:16.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     3.	 We must seek to understand the experience of our gay neighbor even&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;though it questions some aspect of our &quot;certain&quot; theories, lest we close&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ourselves off, as did Job&#039;s friends, to a meeting with the living God calling&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;us to a new and fuller life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     As a test of Job&#039;s faith and righteousness, he is despoiled of everything&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;he holds dear.  From the start we know he is innocent and his protestations&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;are sound.  Three friends come to console him.	They criticize him, presume&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;his guilt and convict him of sin.  Their ears are deaf to his pleas. They are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so sure of what God does (their theology admits no doubts) that they are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;unable to share or even become aware of Job&#039;s experience, which does not fit&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;into their neat theory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     As Christians, we find ourselves in a similar position regarding gays.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have a theory about homosexuality and because of it we are unable to hear&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or understand the experience of gays, which calls that theory, in some or all&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;of its aspects, into question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Biblical texts quoted against gays do not apply to our understanding of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;homosexuality today as a permanent, a given, psychological condition which&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;simply did not exist in the ancient world.  It is unfair to expect&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;biblical texts to provide detailed answers for all our modern problems,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;problems which either did not exist in that world or which were understood in&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;quite a different way.	Just as we should not read all our problems and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;preoccupations back into the texts, we have to be careful not to carry&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ancient cultural characteristics over into our present time.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    We are not considering here the experimental sexual activity among the &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;young or those heterosexuals who engage in occasional same sex activity,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; but are focusing on gay orientation.  Many statements regarding the ability to &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;change one’s sexual orientation come from those heterosexuals who have had &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;same-sex experiences, for whatever reason, arises from their subsequent guilt, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;shame or fear. If they choose only heterosexual activity, they reason anyone can. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is becoming obvious that such behavior can change, whereas one’s sexual&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;orientation cannot.  Inappropriate behavior by a heterosexual or homosexual&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is never to be condoned but must be met with concern and pastoral guidance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     If we are to relate to gays in a truly Christian way, we must try to&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;share, in some way, the deep human experiences of gay men and women.  We&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;should not understand this sharing only in an abstract, watered-down sense,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i.e., we read books and	articles about homosexuality, its causes, problems,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;etc.  This is not unimportant, and it should not be overlooked, but it is too&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cerebral. Human beings are more than minds; they are thinking, feeling,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sharing, loving, suffering, embodied individuals.  We must somehow share this&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;level as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Harvard biblical scholar Paul Hanson focuses the problem: &quot;Job describes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a pernicious kind of idolatry, frightfully common among religious people today&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and yet is seldom recognized as such.  Humans conceptualize God, lay claims to&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the infallibility of their image, buttress their claims by arguing that	their&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;concept of God is proven by divine revelation objectively drawn from the Bible,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and then appoint themselves as God’s envoy to proclaim divine judgment on all&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;who differ.  Thus the religiously elite bring about the breakdown of community&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and increase intolerance and human misery, all as a means of safeguarding&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;their own vindictive sense of moral and spiritual superiority.  Job has	little&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;patience with such self-appointed spokespersons of `god`.  Living religiously&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is not a question of constructing and defending a definitive theological&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;system but of responding faithfully, at the intersection of religious heritage,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;contemporary existence and experience, to an encounter with the living God.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point is clear:  If we are to relate to gays in a responsible, Christian &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;pastoral way, we must begin to relate to the gay question with intelligence, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;understanding, sympathy and compassion without condemnation.  We noted &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;earlier that the first step to bigotry is the denial of our common humanity.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gays are human beings just like all of us.  We must keep Job and his friends &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;in mind.  His friends held their theory with great conviction and no room for doubt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The best comment on this comes near the end of the book of Job:  &quot;When the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lord had finished speaking to Job, he said to Eliphaz, the Temanite, `I	am&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;angry with you and your	friends because you have not spoken rightly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;concerning me, as my servant Job has done.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     4.	 The Society of Jesus&#039; time, just as now, had its marginal people,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those others looked down upon, despised, and denied basic justice:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samaritans, prostitutes, publicans, Lepers.  Wherever there was oppression,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;suffering, denial of justice, Jesus faced a choice.  He could have said, &quot;If&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I go to these people, work with them to put an end to their oppression,	the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;injustice they suffer, I may be accused of agreeing with them in every detail;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I may be identified with them.  I&#039;d better stand aside and criticize them, and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;people will see how religiously correct I am.&quot;  Or he could have said, &quot;I will&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;be present to them in mercy, healing, compassion and strength.&quot;	He was there&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with them and he was roundly criticized for it.   &quot;He eats with publicans and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sinners.&quot; Mt. 2:16; Lk 5:30; Mt. 9:11; Mt.11:19.  He was there. &quot;You are a&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;human being; you have dignity, you count.  I treat you with respect and call&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you to grow to the fullest humanity you can, to a life of peace and love and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;justice.  And I expect my followers to do the same.  The Gospels can be no&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;clearer.  Religious arrogance, self-righteousness, hard-heartedness are	much&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;greater obstacles to the kingdom of God than human weakness or sin.  When&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;religion is used to deny life, oppress the outcast, and despise the marginal, do&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Violence to others, we are not dealing with Christian behavior.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     We need to apply these four principles now, for in reaching out to	share&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;compassionately with gays, work for justice for them, we are following the&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;example of Jesus who did the same in his society. To challenge, critique,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;educate, comfort, console in the light of the Gospels is essential to and&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;common to all Christian	ministries.  But if we do not, in some way,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; incorporate these four guidelines, the other aspects of ministry will not,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; in fact, cannot be heard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dom Fidelis, OPR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO HOMOSEXUALITY </p>
<p>     Many Christians upset with media references to gay rights are even more upset over the issue of gay marriages.  Certain clergymen are, in their condemnation of homosexuals, threatening schism in the Episcopal Church.</p>
<p>   Yet others are adopting a pastoral approach based on research and biblical inspiration.  For </p>
<p>example, Michael Guinan, a Franciscan, has been a major  influence in helping his brother clerics </p>
<p>understand and reach out to homosexuals.  Guinan has been forbidden to speak and write on this </p>
<p>topic by Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict.  (The following comments are based on </p>
<p>his and those of others  who have also been silenced).  </p>
<p>     Obviously, the homosexual question has many unsolved problems and areas of </p>
<p>confusion.  The question has been only recently formulated and addressed to the </p>
<p>various fields of inquiry, e.g., psychology, sociology, biology, theology, </p>
<p>biblical studies, etc.  Each field has its own methodology and resources, and we </p>
<p>are far from clear-cut answers to many aspects of this question.  Yet we need to</p>
<p>be concerned with a Christian, pastoral response to homosexuals now….. Because we </p>
<p>Christians are bound, by the Commandments and by the example of our Lord Jesus, </p>
<p>to the following:  </p>
<p>     1.	 Love of neighbor, with	no exceptions;</p>
<p>     2.	 Speaking the truth;</p>
<p>     3.	 Avoiding judgment of others,</p>
<p>for Jesus says: &#8220;Thou shalt love the Lord, thy God with all thy heart, with all thy  </p>
<p>soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the FIRST and great commandment, and the </p>
<p>SECOND is like unto it; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.  ON THESE TWO</p>
<p> COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS&#8221; Can</p>
<p>anything be more clear?	 Yet many Christians disobey that Word when dealing</p>
<p>with homosexuals.  I believe we Christians need to follow four guidelines:</p>
<p>     1.	 We must avoid religious arrogance and self-righteousness, setting</p>
<p> us over against our gay neighbor in violation of his/her common humanity.	</p>
<p>The first step of prejudice and persecution is the denial of the common</p>
<p>humanity of gays.  We are the &#8220;good people&#8221;; they are &#8220;queers, perverts, fags&#8221;.</p>
<p>We will not admit we are all equally human beings, sharing the same basic</p>
<p>needs, desires, hopes and life.   The second step is to quote the Bible to</p>
<p>support this, ignoring the many interpretations of any given text to bolster their</p>
<p>particular stand in disobedience to the mandate of Jesus to love one anther, on which </p>
<p>“hang all the law and the prophets”.  In the Gospels we meet religious &#8220;Bible-quoting&#8221;</p>
<p> people who provided the norm against which others are judged.  The Gospels characterize</p>
<p>them as Pharisees who &#8220;lay heavy burdens on other peoples&#39; shoulders not</p>
<p>lifting a finger to help&#8221;, Mt. 23:4.  Note how our Lord deals with them: Mt</p>
<p>23: 27-28.  We can identify modern Pharisees by their phraseology: &#8220;We are</p>
<p>decent people, we will not put up with&#8230;..We should love the sinner, but hate</p>
<p>the sin.&#8221;  Evil thus committed in the name of decency is worse than that which</p>
<p>is being opposed. In practice it is the &#8220;sinner&#8221; who	is hated and violated.</p>
<p>Perhaps the basic underlying problem has to do with faith.  For all their</p>
<p>&#8220;religious&#8221; talk, such self-righteous people really do not have faith in God</p>
<p>as much as faith in their own faith.  The God of the Bible is a God of</p>
<p>surprises, a God who calls us forward to new depths and new understanding.  We</p>
<p>need as an integral part of our faith, a healthy sense of doubt, a doubt in</p>
<p>our own faith.  The guideline is this: We must not be deceived or misled by</p>
<p>the religious veneer on so much talk about gays.  When we encounter attitudes</p>
<p>such as this we should pause, be suspicious, and have some reservations.  Such an </p>
<p>approach often masks something not only un-Christian but even anti-Christian.  </p>
<p>We can never appeal to self-righteousness to condemn, harm, or deny rights to </p>
<p>our neighbor.</p>
<p>     2.	 We must not bear false witness against our neighbor.  The homosexual </p>
<p>IS our neighbor.  In debates over homosexuality, a standard set of phrases and</p>
<p> accusations are used: &#8220;Gays are sick; They are responsible for their condition and </p>
<p>can change it at will; They molest children and recruit the young&#8221;.  These statements </p>
<p>betray a kind of self-assured simplistic evaluation of the causes of homosexuality.  </p>
<p>Gays are not recruited from the young or from anywhere else. Were that true, </p>
<p>heterosexuals also would be created by recruitment. The clichés involving children </p>
<p>(e.g., Save Our Children) are geared to evoke such an emotional response that the </p>
<p>issues seldom can	be discussed in a reasonable way.  </p>
<p>     The evaluation of empirical data is important. So-called &#8220;Good Christians”</p>
<p>ignore the empirical evidence, established by research, which disproves the</p>
<p>above statements.  The latest brain studies focusing on the structural</p>
<p>differences of the corpus callosum, the hypothalmus, the splenium and the</p>
<p>isthmus size between men and women plus the prenatal hormonal exposure provide</p>
<p>evidence of a neurobiological basis to sexual orientation. Researchers at</p>
<p>McMaster Univ. Hamilton, Ont., state: &#8220;Our results suggest that homosexual </p>
<p>orientation is not unnatural to the homosexual.  It is as natural to them as</p>
<p>heterosexuality is to the heterosexual.  The way the brain develops</p>
<p>anatomically then functionally has a large early hormonal component.  Among</p>
<p>the things the brain develops is sexual orientation.  This is one of the many</p>
<p>variations within each genetic sex.&#8221;   Anatomically we move from female to male as </p>
<p>hormones effect this transitional phase.  Current research on the effect of hormones </p>
<p>during gestation points to this as the primary cause of homosexual orientation.    </p>
<p>Previous research has shown that Homosexuality is established at an extremely early </p>
<p>age, from conception to 3-5 years as is heterosexuality.  </p>
<p>   Child molestation occurs more so statistically among heterosexuals.  If a</p>
<p>parent is really worried about sexual molestation of their children, they</p>
<p>should demand only homosexual teachers since the incidence of same-sex</p>
<p>molestation is dramatically lower than that involving opposite sexes.  The</p>
<p>Christian Century magazine reviewed ten &#8220;Christian&#8221; books on homosexuality</p>
<p>and all but two were extremely criticized for misrepresenting scientific data,</p>
<p>using concepts incorrectly and were described by the reviewer-psychologist as</p>
<p>&#8220;especially insidious.&#8221;	All of the clichés noted above as characteristic of</p>
<p>gays are demonstrably false.  That they continue to be used in debate is the</p>
<p>result of prejudice, bigotry, and demagogic sloganeering in violation of the</p>
<p>Biblical admonition: &#8220;Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor&#8221;,</p>
<p> Ex.20:16.</p>
<p>     3.	 We must seek to understand the experience of our gay neighbor even</p>
<p>though it questions some aspect of our &#8220;certain&#8221; theories, lest we close</p>
<p>ourselves off, as did Job&#39;s friends, to a meeting with the living God calling</p>
<p>us to a new and fuller life.</p>
<p>     As a test of Job&#39;s faith and righteousness, he is despoiled of everything</p>
<p>he holds dear.  From the start we know he is innocent and his protestations</p>
<p>are sound.  Three friends come to console him.	They criticize him, presume</p>
<p>his guilt and convict him of sin.  Their ears are deaf to his pleas. They are</p>
<p>so sure of what God does (their theology admits no doubts) that they are</p>
<p>unable to share or even become aware of Job&#39;s experience, which does not fit</p>
<p>into their neat theory.</p>
<p>     As Christians, we find ourselves in a similar position regarding gays.</p>
<p>We have a theory about homosexuality and because of it we are unable to hear</p>
<p>or understand the experience of gays, which calls that theory, in some or all</p>
<p>of its aspects, into question.</p>
<p>     Biblical texts quoted against gays do not apply to our understanding of</p>
<p>homosexuality today as a permanent, a given, psychological condition which</p>
<p>simply did not exist in the ancient world.  It is unfair to expect</p>
<p>biblical texts to provide detailed answers for all our modern problems,</p>
<p>problems which either did not exist in that world or which were understood in</p>
<p>quite a different way.	Just as we should not read all our problems and</p>
<p>preoccupations back into the texts, we have to be careful not to carry</p>
<p>ancient cultural characteristics over into our present time.  </p>
<p>    We are not considering here the experimental sexual activity among the </p>
<p>young or those heterosexuals who engage in occasional same sex activity,</p>
<p> but are focusing on gay orientation.  Many statements regarding the ability to </p>
<p>change one’s sexual orientation come from those heterosexuals who have had </p>
<p>same-sex experiences, for whatever reason, arises from their subsequent guilt, </p>
<p>shame or fear. If they choose only heterosexual activity, they reason anyone can. </p>
<p>It is becoming obvious that such behavior can change, whereas one’s sexual</p>
<p>orientation cannot.  Inappropriate behavior by a heterosexual or homosexual</p>
<p>is never to be condoned but must be met with concern and pastoral guidance.</p>
<p>     If we are to relate to gays in a truly Christian way, we must try to</p>
<p>share, in some way, the deep human experiences of gay men and women.  We</p>
<p>should not understand this sharing only in an abstract, watered-down sense,</p>
<p>i.e., we read books and	articles about homosexuality, its causes, problems,</p>
<p>etc.  This is not unimportant, and it should not be overlooked, but it is too</p>
<p>cerebral. Human beings are more than minds; they are thinking, feeling,</p>
<p>sharing, loving, suffering, embodied individuals.  We must somehow share this</p>
<p>level as well.</p>
<p>     Harvard biblical scholar Paul Hanson focuses the problem: &#8220;Job describes</p>
<p>a pernicious kind of idolatry, frightfully common among religious people today</p>
<p>and yet is seldom recognized as such.  Humans conceptualize God, lay claims to</p>
<p>the infallibility of their image, buttress their claims by arguing that	their</p>
<p>concept of God is proven by divine revelation objectively drawn from the Bible,</p>
<p>and then appoint themselves as God’s envoy to proclaim divine judgment on all</p>
<p>who differ.  Thus the religiously elite bring about the breakdown of community</p>
<p>and increase intolerance and human misery, all as a means of safeguarding</p>
<p>their own vindictive sense of moral and spiritual superiority.  Job has	little</p>
<p>patience with such self-appointed spokespersons of `god`.  Living religiously</p>
<p>is not a question of constructing and defending a definitive theological</p>
<p>system but of responding faithfully, at the intersection of religious heritage,</p>
<p>contemporary existence and experience, to an encounter with the living God.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point is clear:  If we are to relate to gays in a responsible, Christian </p>
<p>pastoral way, we must begin to relate to the gay question with intelligence, </p>
<p>understanding, sympathy and compassion without condemnation.  We noted </p>
<p>earlier that the first step to bigotry is the denial of our common humanity.  </p>
<p>Gays are human beings just like all of us.  We must keep Job and his friends </p>
<p>in mind.  His friends held their theory with great conviction and no room for doubt.</p>
<p>The best comment on this comes near the end of the book of Job:  &#8220;When the</p>
<p>Lord had finished speaking to Job, he said to Eliphaz, the Temanite, `I	am</p>
<p>angry with you and your	friends because you have not spoken rightly</p>
<p>concerning me, as my servant Job has done.&#8221;</p>
<p>     4.	 The Society of Jesus&#39; time, just as now, had its marginal people,</p>
<p>Those others looked down upon, despised, and denied basic justice:</p>
<p>Samaritans, prostitutes, publicans, Lepers.  Wherever there was oppression,</p>
<p>suffering, denial of justice, Jesus faced a choice.  He could have said, &#8220;If</p>
<p>I go to these people, work with them to put an end to their oppression,	the</p>
<p>injustice they suffer, I may be accused of agreeing with them in every detail;</p>
<p>I may be identified with them.  I&#39;d better stand aside and criticize them, and</p>
<p>people will see how religiously correct I am.&#8221;  Or he could have said, &#8220;I will</p>
<p>be present to them in mercy, healing, compassion and strength.&#8221;	He was there</p>
<p>with them and he was roundly criticized for it.   &#8220;He eats with publicans and</p>
<p>sinners.&#8221; Mt. 2:16; Lk 5:30; Mt. 9:11; Mt.11:19.  He was there. &#8220;You are a</p>
<p>human being; you have dignity, you count.  I treat you with respect and call</p>
<p>you to grow to the fullest humanity you can, to a life of peace and love and</p>
<p>justice.  And I expect my followers to do the same.  The Gospels can be no</p>
<p>clearer.  Religious arrogance, self-righteousness, hard-heartedness are	much</p>
<p>greater obstacles to the kingdom of God than human weakness or sin.  When</p>
<p>religion is used to deny life, oppress the outcast, and despise the marginal, do</p>
<p>Violence to others, we are not dealing with Christian behavior.</p>
<p>     We need to apply these four principles now, for in reaching out to	share</p>
<p>compassionately with gays, work for justice for them, we are following the</p>
<p>example of Jesus who did the same in his society. To challenge, critique,</p>
<p>educate, comfort, console in the light of the Gospels is essential to and</p>
<p>common to all Christian	ministries.  But if we do not, in some way,</p>
<p> incorporate these four guidelines, the other aspects of ministry will not,</p>
<p> in fact, cannot be heard.</p>
<p>Dom Fidelis, OPR</p>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW...&lt;br&gt;the people in the gay community knew that he was. the same with the ex gov. in NJ we all knew he was also. Why do these people have to get caught to com out?&lt;br&gt;i don&#039;t get it and i am a gay person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW&#8230;<br />the people in the gay community knew that he was. the same with the ex gov. in NJ we all knew he was also. Why do these people have to get caught to com out?<br />i don&#39;t get it and i am a gay person</p>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give me a break. the man is GAY!!! he looks like a gay person. talks like a gay person. dresses like a gay person. acts like a gay person. walks like a gay person. HE IS A GAY PERSON!  if it looks like a duck.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>give me a break. the man is GAY!!! he looks like a gay person. talks like a gay person. dresses like a gay person. acts like a gay person. walks like a gay person. HE IS A GAY PERSON!  if it looks like a duck&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>anniehorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the root of the problem hasn&#039;t been dealt with, then past behavior is an indicator of future behavior.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The root here isn&#039;t the experience or awful memory of the sexual abuse as a child, but the heart issues &lt;br&gt;within Ted Haggard himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His lack of integrity to uphold his committment to the restoration process; his lack of responsibility in &lt;br&gt;casting blame on his abuser as well as attacking ministers for not &quot;spreading the gospel through Haggard&#039;s fall&quot; &lt;br&gt;(a very unique take on preaching the gospel I might add); and the lack of humility and repentance which has been&lt;br&gt;evident from the very first.....all these are the true indicators of whether this man is ready to get up again and lead &lt;br&gt;others or not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And he obviously isn&#039;t ready, although he continues to appoint himself to this task.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At far greater risk here is the dispersion to the character and name of Christ.  THAT should be Haggard&#039;s first concern.&lt;br&gt;His second concern should be for the welfare of his family and flock......all which were blatantly disregarded during&lt;br&gt;the years of his transgression.......all blatantly disregarded now as he seeks to promote himself despite the &lt;br&gt;many controversies this instigates, or how hard this hits those who knew him, loved him, and were most&lt;br&gt;personally affected by his fall.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Ted were truly repentant, humbled, and contrite, then he would stick to the word he gave and submit himself&lt;br&gt;to the authority of the true leadership in the church, instead of trying to solicit (no pun intended) funds and build up&lt;br&gt;yet another following for himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can forgive Haggard, but only the Lord can restore him......and his arrogance gives no indication that such&lt;br&gt;true restoration of heart has occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the root of the problem hasn&#39;t been dealt with, then past behavior is an indicator of future behavior.</p>
<p>The root here isn&#39;t the experience or awful memory of the sexual abuse as a child, but the heart issues <br />within Ted Haggard himself.</p>
<p>His lack of integrity to uphold his committment to the restoration process; his lack of responsibility in <br />casting blame on his abuser as well as attacking ministers for not &#8220;spreading the gospel through Haggard&#39;s fall&#8221; <br />(a very unique take on preaching the gospel I might add); and the lack of humility and repentance which has been<br />evident from the very first&#8230;..all these are the true indicators of whether this man is ready to get up again and lead <br />others or not.</p>
<p>And he obviously isn&#39;t ready, although he continues to appoint himself to this task.</p>
<p>At far greater risk here is the dispersion to the character and name of Christ.  THAT should be Haggard&#39;s first concern.<br />His second concern should be for the welfare of his family and flock&#8230;&#8230;all which were blatantly disregarded during<br />the years of his transgression&#8230;&#8230;.all blatantly disregarded now as he seeks to promote himself despite the <br />many controversies this instigates, or how hard this hits those who knew him, loved him, and were most<br />personally affected by his fall.</p>
<p>If Ted were truly repentant, humbled, and contrite, then he would stick to the word he gave and submit himself<br />to the authority of the true leadership in the church, instead of trying to solicit (no pun intended) funds and build up<br />yet another following for himself.</p>
<p>We can forgive Haggard, but only the Lord can restore him&#8230;&#8230;and his arrogance gives no indication that such<br />true restoration of heart has occurred.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always?  Is war always immoral?  Is that an absolute?  Was the Revolutionary War immoral, which brought the freedom you enjoy?  When people are suffering an injustice, is it more &quot;moral&quot; to turn a blind eye because to stand up for what&#039;s right and defend the helpless is &#039;immoral&#039;? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seems to me that doing nothing is immoral, not fighting to defend freedom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always?  Is war always immoral?  Is that an absolute?  Was the Revolutionary War immoral, which brought the freedom you enjoy?  When people are suffering an injustice, is it more &#8220;moral&#8221; to turn a blind eye because to stand up for what&#39;s right and defend the helpless is &#39;immoral&#39;? </p>
<p>Seems to me that doing nothing is immoral, not fighting to defend freedom!</p>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evangelists, like Haggard, should atone for having supported George W. Bush&lt;br&gt;by seeking greater vigilance.  When a candidate is likely a moron, it is immaterial &lt;br&gt;whether they are on the same page with you.  War is immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evangelists, like Haggard, should atone for having supported George W. Bush<br />by seeking greater vigilance.  When a candidate is likely a moron, it is immaterial <br />whether they are on the same page with you.  War is immoral.</p>
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		<dc:creator>cdegette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Interesting. It was connecting earlier today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Interesting. It was connecting earlier today.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His sermon is not posted at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tedhaggard.com&quot;&gt;tedhaggard.com&lt;/a&gt;, The site simply say&#039;s &quot;Website Is Being Rebuilt&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His sermon is not posted at <a href="http://tedhaggard.com">tedhaggard.com</a>, The site simply say&#39;s &#8220;Website Is Being Rebuilt&#8221;</p>
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