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		<title>By: Erin Rosa</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-11485</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;D&#039;oh!&lt;/strong&gt; I knew that. Don&#039;t know why I put UFCW. Thanks greenchiledem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>D&#39;oh!</strong> I knew that. Don&#39;t know why I put UFCW. Thanks greenchiledem.</p>
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		<title>By: greenchiledem</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-11484</link>
		<dc:creator>greenchiledem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Correction: United Farm Workers (UFW)&lt;/strong&gt; not the United Food and Commericial Workers (UFCW) that you have quoted above. Here&#039;s the link to the UFW website &quot;Campaign of the Week&quot; website. They ask people to sign an online email to Governor Ritter. &lt;blockquote&gt;E-mail Colorado&#039;s Governor today and tell him that allowing growers to hire prisoners to work in the agriculture is nothing more than legalized slavery. Tell him the solution to the nation&#039;s immigration crisis is not prison labor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ufwaction.org/campaign/inmates?source=web&quot;&gt;UFW Campaign of the Week - Email Colorado&#039;s Gov. today! &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Correction: United Farm Workers (UFW)</strong> not the United Food and Commericial Workers (UFCW) that you have quoted above. Here&#39;s the link to the UFW website &#8220;Campaign of the Week&#8221; website. They ask people to sign an online email to Governor Ritter.<br />
<blockquote>E-mail Colorado&#39;s Governor today and tell him that allowing growers to hire prisoners to work in the agriculture is nothing more than legalized slavery. Tell him the solution to the nation&#39;s immigration crisis is not prison labor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.ufwaction.org/campaign/inmates?source=web">UFW Campaign of the Week &#8211; Email Colorado&#39;s Gov. today! </a></p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-11483</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FWIW&lt;/strong&gt; There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about prison labor.&#160; The 13th Amendment, which banned slavery, made a specific exception for prison labor.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;This doesn&#039;t mean that it is good policy in this case.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Farm labor is currently the most dangerous occupation in existence (far more so than say, factory work), and prison labor managers aren&#039;t known for their attention to safety standards (hell, 47% of kids under 18 in food service jobs are doing dangerous work in violation of federal law, and many of them have parents who vote).&#160; Of course, immigrant labor isn&#039;t know for its political clout either, which partially explains why farming has remained so dangerous.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then there is the issue that the most effective way to farm is highly mechanized and tool dependent.&#160; This isn&#039;t necessary want you want gang bangers and car thieves doing.&#160; Chain gangs died at the hands of the tractor, which made prison labor uneconomic for simple farm labor even when paid only a pittance.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Utah, they had (and perhaps still do have) prisoners doing phone bank work, which protects the public from physical harm, although it does seem an invitation to fraud which is what many inmates are in for.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Honestly, some form of prison labor makes sense.&#160; Enforced idleness is a sure prescription for prison violence.&#160; Work builds, at least, the work habits, and possibly even the skills that prisoners will need when they get out with $100 bucks, no place to live, and a major impediment to obtaining legitimate work in most cases.&#160; Farm labor isn&#039;t building the kinds of skills they are going to need when they get out, although it may provide some sense of habitually working and an alternative to picking fights with fellow inmates.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most prison labor is designed to minimize conflict with the private sector to avoid the sticky economic issues associated with having inmates underbid law abiding workers.&#160; This program seems to be an admission that there is no competition with the private sector because Americans won&#039;t do the work at any price that farmers want to pay.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FWIW</strong> There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about prison labor.&nbsp; The 13th Amendment, which banned slavery, made a specific exception for prison labor.
<p>This doesn&#39;t mean that it is good policy in this case.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Farm labor is currently the most dangerous occupation in existence (far more so than say, factory work), and prison labor managers aren&#39;t known for their attention to safety standards (hell, 47% of kids under 18 in food service jobs are doing dangerous work in violation of federal law, and many of them have parents who vote).&nbsp; Of course, immigrant labor isn&#39;t know for its political clout either, which partially explains why farming has remained so dangerous.</p>
<p>Then there is the issue that the most effective way to farm is highly mechanized and tool dependent.&nbsp; This isn&#39;t necessary want you want gang bangers and car thieves doing.&nbsp; Chain gangs died at the hands of the tractor, which made prison labor uneconomic for simple farm labor even when paid only a pittance.&nbsp; </p>
<p>In Utah, they had (and perhaps still do have) prisoners doing phone bank work, which protects the public from physical harm, although it does seem an invitation to fraud which is what many inmates are in for.</p>
<p>Honestly, some form of prison labor makes sense.&nbsp; Enforced idleness is a sure prescription for prison violence.&nbsp; Work builds, at least, the work habits, and possibly even the skills that prisoners will need when they get out with $100 bucks, no place to live, and a major impediment to obtaining legitimate work in most cases.&nbsp; Farm labor isn&#39;t building the kinds of skills they are going to need when they get out, although it may provide some sense of habitually working and an alternative to picking fights with fellow inmates.</p>
<p>Most prison labor is designed to minimize conflict with the private sector to avoid the sticky economic issues associated with having inmates underbid law abiding workers.&nbsp; This program seems to be an admission that there is no competition with the private sector because Americans won&#39;t do the work at any price that farmers want to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: JADodd</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-11482</link>
		<dc:creator>JADodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 06:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pay a living wage&lt;/strong&gt; Perhaps if &quot;farmers&quot; (corporate agriculture) paid a living wage, they could find workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pay a living wage</strong> Perhaps if &#8220;farmers&#8221; (corporate agriculture) paid a living wage, they could find workers.</p>
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		<title>By: greenchiledem</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-2539</link>
		<dc:creator>greenchiledem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Correction: United Farm Workers (UFW)&lt;/strong&gt; not the United Food and Commericial Workers (UFCW) that you have quoted above. Here&#039;s the link to the UFW website &quot;Campaign of the Week&quot; website. They ask people to sign an online email to Governor Ritter. &lt;blockquote&gt;E-mail Colorado&#039;s Governor today and tell him that allowing growers to hire prisoners to work in the agriculture is nothing more than legalized slavery. Tell him the solution to the nation&#039;s immigration crisis is not prison labor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ufwaction.org/campaign/inmates?source=web&quot;&gt;UFW Campaign of the Week - Email Colorado&#039;s Gov. today! &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Correction: United Farm Workers (UFW)</strong> not the United Food and Commericial Workers (UFCW) that you have quoted above. Here&#8217;s the link to the UFW website &#8220;Campaign of the Week&#8221; website. They ask people to sign an online email to Governor Ritter.<br />
<blockquote>E-mail Colorado&#8217;s Governor today and tell him that allowing growers to hire prisoners to work in the agriculture is nothing more than legalized slavery. Tell him the solution to the nation&#8217;s immigration crisis is not prison labor.</p></blockquote>
<p>
Link: <a href="http://www.ufwaction.org/campaign/inmates?source=web">UFW Campaign of the Week &#8211; Email Colorado&#8217;s Gov. today! </a></p>
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		<title>By: Erin Rosa</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;D&#039;oh!&lt;/strong&gt; I knew that. Don&#039;t know why I put UFCW. Thanks greenchiledem.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>D&#8217;oh!</strong> I knew that. Don&#8217;t know why I put UFCW. Thanks greenchiledem.</p>
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		<title>By: JADodd</title>
		<link>http://coloradoindependent.com/1492/union-targets-prison-labor/comment-page-1#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator>JADodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pay a living wage&lt;/strong&gt; Perhaps if &quot;farmers&quot; (corporate agriculture) paid a living wage, they could find workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pay a living wage</strong> Perhaps if &#8220;farmers&#8221; (corporate agriculture) paid a living wage, they could find workers.</p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FWIW&lt;/strong&gt; There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about prison labor.&#160; The 13th Amendment, which banned slavery, made a specific exception for prison labor.&lt;p&gt;
This doesn&#039;t mean that it is good policy in this case.&#160; &lt;p&gt;
Farm labor is currently the most dangerous occupation in existence (far more so than say, factory work), and prison labor managers aren&#039;t known for their attention to safety standards (hell, 47% of kids under 18 in food service jobs are doing dangerous work in violation of federal law, and many of them have parents who vote).&#160; Of course, immigrant labor isn&#039;t know for its political clout either, which partially explains why farming has remained so dangerous.&lt;p&gt;
Then there is the issue that the most effective way to farm is highly mechanized and tool dependent.&#160; This isn&#039;t necessary want you want gang bangers and car thieves doing.&#160; Chain gangs died at the hands of the tractor, which made prison labor uneconomic for simple farm labor even when paid only a pittance.&#160; &lt;p&gt;
In Utah, they had (and perhaps still do have) prisoners doing phone bank work, which protects the public from physical harm, although it does seem an invitation to fraud which is what many inmates are in for.&lt;p&gt;
Honestly, some form of prison labor makes sense.&#160; Enforced idleness is a sure prescription for prison violence.&#160; Work builds, at least, the work habits, and possibly even the skills that prisoners will need when they get out with $100 bucks, no place to live, and a major impediment to obtaining legitimate work in most cases.&#160; Farm labor isn&#039;t building the kinds of skills they are going to need when they get out, although it may provide some sense of habitually working and an alternative to picking fights with fellow inmates.&lt;p&gt;
Most prison labor is designed to minimize conflict with the private sector to avoid the sticky economic issues associated with having inmates underbid law abiding workers.&#160; This program seems to be an admission that there is no competition with the private sector because Americans won&#039;t do the work at any price that farmers want to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FWIW</strong> There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about prison labor.&nbsp; The 13th Amendment, which banned slavery, made a specific exception for prison labor.
<p>
This doesn&#8217;t mean that it is good policy in this case.&nbsp; </p>
<p>
Farm labor is currently the most dangerous occupation in existence (far more so than say, factory work), and prison labor managers aren&#8217;t known for their attention to safety standards (hell, 47% of kids under 18 in food service jobs are doing dangerous work in violation of federal law, and many of them have parents who vote).&nbsp; Of course, immigrant labor isn&#8217;t know for its political clout either, which partially explains why farming has remained so dangerous.</p>
<p>
Then there is the issue that the most effective way to farm is highly mechanized and tool dependent.&nbsp; This isn&#8217;t necessary want you want gang bangers and car thieves doing.&nbsp; Chain gangs died at the hands of the tractor, which made prison labor uneconomic for simple farm labor even when paid only a pittance.&nbsp; </p>
<p>
In Utah, they had (and perhaps still do have) prisoners doing phone bank work, which protects the public from physical harm, although it does seem an invitation to fraud which is what many inmates are in for.</p>
<p>
Honestly, some form of prison labor makes sense.&nbsp; Enforced idleness is a sure prescription for prison violence.&nbsp; Work builds, at least, the work habits, and possibly even the skills that prisoners will need when they get out with $100 bucks, no place to live, and a major impediment to obtaining legitimate work in most cases.&nbsp; Farm labor isn&#8217;t building the kinds of skills they are going to need when they get out, although it may provide some sense of habitually working and an alternative to picking fights with fellow inmates.</p>
<p>
Most prison labor is designed to minimize conflict with the private sector to avoid the sticky economic issues associated with having inmates underbid law abiding workers.&nbsp; This program seems to be an admission that there is no competition with the private sector because Americans won&#8217;t do the work at any price that farmers want to pay.</p>
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